Cliff Jacobson, renowned outdoors writer and wilderness guide, on camping, canoeing, and more

Cliff Jacobson is one of North America's most respected outdoors writers, wilderness guides, and consultants, and author of more than a dozen top-selling books on camping and canoeing. He's a featured teacher and speaker at the first-ever Boundary Waters Expo June 12-14 at Seagull Lake. He joined Dick recently to chat about what he'll cover at the expo, and lots more. His motto: "Skills are more important than things."